OK, well talking about meeting wives, my wife used to work in a bank, right, she was a a cashier, a bank teller, so it's the first place I saw her, and this was my bank, the bank that I went to, and I saw her there and I thought "Wow! She’s she’s fantastic!" you know. So obviously I had to go in once a week anyway to draw money out, started going a little bit more often than once a week. [To to cash a cheque for one quid?] Yeah I would I would go in and sometimes you know you didn’t need any money but you had to had an excuse, so cash a cheque for a pound or something like that. And this went on for quite a long time and I was always queuing up in her queue, and I wasn't the only one as well. You know it's kinda noticeable, there were three cashiers and there would be sort of a long quene in her line and then sort of maybe nobody in the other or just one or two in the others. So anyway this on for a while, and you know it's getting nowhere - I'm fairly shy when it comes to these things and there was no way I was gonna chat her up openly, especially with about three other people standing behind me listening to everything. It's sort of like trying to you know chat up a Librarian - there's a big notice saying "Please be quiet! No talking!" you know. So I was thinking "What can I do? Can I write a message on the back of the cheque?" And I just "No, no, I can't" - I'm too scared to do that. So this went on for a while and I thought "No, forget it. This is nothing, nothing’s gonna happen." I still had to go to the bank, I can’t change banks, but after a while I start saying "Let me go to the other" [Did you start going to another teller?] Yeah, yeah "Let me go to the other queues, you know, the other cashiers." ’Cos I can’t keep giving myself this sort of pain you know. [yeah, yeah] Then I was had a couple of friends, right, so I told them or they came in with me, I can't remember. Pretty soon they both fancy her as well and there's like the three of us on a Saturday, you know they start they start going along to the same bank. Anyway, by this time I’d sort of given up you know, any hope that anything’s gonna happen, I’m not gonna say anything. And one of my friends, much more bold than I am, is always you know one for the women, and he asked her out, OK. So, so but yeah, again, by this time you know I think well there's nothing gonna happen as far as I'm concerned. Anyway, I'm in the cinema one night watching a watching a film. Film’s started, about ten minutes into the film, so I’m sitting there by myself. ’Course it’s dark all around, the usherette, right [This isn't a Friday night is it? How sad!] No, it was of course sad, there am I by myself, you know. It probably was a Friday night, yeah. Nobody to go with, so I'm on my own. And about ten minutes into the film, the usherette comes in with a little torch, right, ushering in some people to watch the movie and of course, who does she usher in, OK, but Norma and this other guy! So of course as soon as he sees me, immediately he pushes Norma to the other side, right, and then sits down next to me so that he can keep her on the other side. But that was that sort of broke the ice because from that point on I'd sort of like seen her outside work [That was the first time you actually talked to her.] Yeah, that's right. And so, from then on, things picked up. And the rest is another story, we'll we'll cut it there!